7 responses to “Palliative approach to care and serious illness conversations”

  1. Excellent article. Thank you.

  2. Lots of people talk about these issues. I think all of us want to be good at this!
    What is different here is that you’ve given me PRACTICAL guidance on how to more effectively participate. Thank you.

  3. Excellent guide to dealing with the big questions. I am 76 years old, retired FM. WIshing my own FMD might be capable of the empathy needed in using these cues.

  4. I wish there was a way to get this article out to ALL medical practitioners – this approach makes such a difference to the illness experience of patients, families, and the health care team.

  5. Outstanding article. I have done the Victoria Palliative Care course twice in the past 25 years and attended numerous talks on the subject but I found this the best one especially on technique approach on opening and carrying out discussions on SIC. I also facilitate Palliative Care seminars for first year medical students at SMP and will definitely be recommending that they read this article. Thank you for sharing.g

  6. This is an excellent article, very informative and helpful for patients with terminal illness.
    I work in a nursing home most of the residents suffer from different stages of dementia.
    The Palliative approach to care conversation is excellent – unfortunately most of the conversations are with family.
    Any suggestions on a palliative approach to care for these residents, as the focus is more on the family and their understanding of the resident’s illness and wishes?

  7. Thanks for your comments and question Wiliam. Apologies for my late reply. I will do my best to answer.

    I also work with people with major neurocognitive disorders at varying stages and in different living situations. From my experience, most people with major neurocognitive disorders and their families appreciate the palliative approach to care, especially learning about the prognosis and trajectory of the illness. I use the frailty graph above as the visual aid.

    Early stage: Usually people in the early stages of major neurocognitive disorder are their own decision makers. Education and encouragement for planning are important at this stage of the diagnosis. The person with major neurocognitive disorder should be encouraged to involve family or their future substitute decision makers when having these conversations with their health team. They can give direction to their families about their current care and prefered care in the event of a health crisis.
    This document can help: My Plan – ACP in Canada | PPS au Canada (advancecareplanning.ca). Usually at this stage, grief is present: anticipatory and ambiguous grief. The palliative approach to care provides space for grief. This resource helps guide the grieving journey: As illness progresses: Dementia, ALS, MS, Parkinson’s, or Huntington Disease: Introduction: Overview (mygrief.ca).

    Moderate stage: Usually people in the middle or moderate stage of major neurocognitive disorder are not able to complete their instrumental activities of daily living, including arranging health visits and medication management. They are relying on family for these tasks. These people are likely to be the future substitute decision maker for the person with major neurocognitive disorder. Yet the person with major neurocognitive disorder is normally still their decision maker at this stage. Because both family and the person with major neurocognitive disorder are together for the health visits, this is an important time to repeat these conversations. Health teams can review care goals with the person with major neurocognitive disorder involving family and future decision makers as the diagnosis progresses. Caregiver stress usually increases at this stage too. The palliative approach to care provides space exploring caregiver stress and options to support the person with major neurocognitive disorder and their families.

    Late stage: Usually people in the late stage of major neurocognitive disorder require assistance for their basic activities of daily living and are usually unable to be left alone. Most likely the person with major neurocognitive disorder has behaviour and psychological symptoms of dementia (BPSD). I don’t think I do a good job of sharing with patients and their families the likelihood of BPSD. They are distressing for families. Usually BPSD leads to placement in formal settings for the person with major neurocognitive disorder. The person with major neurocognitive disorder is typically not involved or is minimally involved in their care decisions. If the person with major neurocognitive disorder had these conversations with their families/substitute decision makers before progression, these conversations can be used as a guide for future shared decision making by the families/substitute decision makers. At this stage the terminality major neurocognitive disorder is apparent. With the visual tool I mentioned earlier, I show families the person with major neurocognitive disorder is at the last stages. Grief and caregiver stress is still present and supported with the palliative approach to care. I find families/substitute decision makers normally comment, “I just want them to be comfortable” or “I don’t think they would want treatment that prolongs their lives.” The palliative approach to care supports families making these hard decisions by reviewing the best evidence while recalling the person with major neurocognitive disorder’s values while providing care that best meets both.

    I hope I answered your question. Thanks!

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